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First Summer Meeting Agenda

Hi Eglugers,

I'm writing this topic to discuss the meeting agenda to let us make successful meeting.

Suggested Agenda:
1- Quick Evaluation For The last event (The install fest) -> 15 mins
2- Set an overview on the EGLug Events in Alex for the next few monthes. -> 45 Mins
3- Trying to discuss the LUG's plans on the medium and long range. -> 45 Mins
4- Set a periodic meetings for the lug in alex (at least once a month - max 3 per month)-> 15 Mins

To summarize
1- Quick Evaluation
2- Set Summer Plan
3- Discuss the lug strategy in Alexandia.
4- Set Periodic meetings.

That's my suggestions. Waiting for your replies.

linuxawy's picture


I totally agree on the first and last points. But I have a concern regarding point 2.

As we found in the last installfest, most of the volunteers were not technically good in Gnu/Linux and even more lots of them was not a Gnu/Linux user.

I suggest that we should not make more events now, rather we should increase the knowledge of the volunteers. So let's change this point to "summer plan for eglug in alexandria".

The second thing that I wanted to add to the meeting is to talk to the volunteers and tell them what is eglug as they dunno about the entity they are volunteering with. I don't think it's doable to discuss medium to long range plan with who don't know anything about eglug, guess this point should be postponed to the next meeting.

So I suggest the agenda to be:

Evaluation of the installfest10 minutes
Short term (Summer) plan30 minutes
Setting up periodical eglug meeting10 minutes
A short eglug overview30 minutes
Socializingrest of the time

What do you think about that guys?

Ahmed D. El-Mekkawy


Great Let's hope we can apply this at the specific time.

Let's Free The World

d4de's picture

I agree with Linuxawy on the

I agree with Linuxawy on the fact that there were a portion of people that volunteered that were not on the acceptable levels of knowledge about the whole Linux OS, thus training is a good idea, however we should enforce a certain level of knowledge to allow anyone to volunteer for any events or tasks that would involve answering questions about Linux or commencing active changes to a certain system, so we don't have to face the same problems we saw in the last festival.

Another thing is, we don't really have an organization structure, volunteering isn't only about events or things that needs to be done, there is far more other areas that needs volunteers and also doesn't require much knowledge for Linux, but since I'm a relatively new member or volunteer so to speak, I'll leave this point to be discussed by the senior folks.

I'd also recommend that we discuss plans for spreading awareness about Linux or FOSS in general, and how Egyptians are literally commencing a crime of theft by using pirated copies of proprietary software, so we could use this point to our advantage to convince people that there is an alternative to that same proprietary software they are "stealing" that is free, more powerful, more open, and far more secure.

- Just my two cents -

linuxawy's picture

about the organization

Though I totally agree that there's always a room for volunteering for non-technical guys even off-events time. At the very least check what Ghada did in the faculty of engineering which didn't really include any heavy technical issues. More of this to be discussed in the meeting if guys would like to.

About FOSS awareness spreading. From my experience with eglug this is not the right timing to do so. The problem is spreading awareness will get you much more new users, and currently we have an issue that our volunteers are below the acceptable knowledge threshold. which will result our inability to support the new users, which will make some of them return back to pirated proprietary software cause the lack of knowledge/support, And worse, some of them will continue being in the lug without knowledge which will dramatically decrease the "who knows":"who doesn't know" ratio, and thus the quality of the lug overall will be down. adding if we have lost one or 2 of the very few knowledgeable people we have, will result us to reach the point of no return. Which exactly happened to the original group who made up eglug in cairo (u know, we got suggestions like why don't we use paltalk instead of irc to communicate, and the majority accept. Thank God it didn't happen actually or I would shoot myself).

My point is that we must have fair number of seniors who are actually knowledgable (a core group), and have our knowledge redundant (and if possible, documented) so if someone gets busy the lug can still survive. Then we continue spreading awareness and creating a new pool of members then get some of them to be seniors and so on.

Actually this is what I meant by discussing the medium to long term plan, which I wanted to postpone to the next meeting :)

Ahmed D. El-Mekkawy

MSameer's picture

, I agree with Linuxawy on

I agree with Linuxawy on the fact that there were a portion of people that volunteered that were not on the acceptable levels of knowledge about the whole Linux OS,

Could you please be kind enough and inform us about the criteria used to evaluate volunteers to make sure they have the acceptable level of knowledge for your next event ?

DesertFox's picture

By asking him if he took

By asking him if he took RHCE or not :P

d4de's picture

NO thank you, I'm not a

NO thank you, I'm not a certification collector, nor I'm even interested in such ones, I prefer google and books, I feel no need to provide any proof of my knowledge to anyone.

DesertFox's picture

take it easy, I am just

take it easy, I am just kidding :P

_ My blog :)

d4de's picture

1) This is not _my_

1) This is not _my_ event. 2) Since you didn't really attend the fest, I'm assuming you lack the mental image we (as the people that actually attend it) had when we were there. 3) I'm not here to debate irrelevant meanings of words that would require active experience of what we experienced at the fest. 4) "Acceptable levels of knowledge" for this particular context means the ability to at _least_ solve basic Linux daily basis problems, and having installed Linux more than once in your life time.

Ahmad Zakaria's picture

I agree with Linuxawy,,,, i

I agree with Linuxawy,,,, i think volunteers should know better about: Gnu/Linux, the LUG, and how to respond to technical questions asked by users,,,,

I also suggest that talking about the install fest should be more of an analyzing of what went good and encourage it,, and what went bad ,, so we could treat it,,,

Finally: socializing is a good point Linuxawy,,, alexluggers should know each other better to encourage team spirit,,,

me 2 with Linuxawy

As 2moro is the 1st time to me after attending the festival I see the idea v good .Really new joiners need some thing like that

mogaio's picture

fine fine

that's fine but i think we have two ways to go

the first: developing our volunteers the second: planning for new events and may be "developing a small distro :)"

so if we take only one of them will make us lost some of our power "coz the first way will make the volunteers see that we are gonna start again from the beginning" and also we can't go to the second way without having a clever volunteers who truly understand the GNU/Linux and the LUG so merging between them will be the best solution

DesertFox's picture

great idea! maybe we can

great idea! maybe we can held a "making distro day!" where experienced members train and educate junior volunteers. don't forget the LAN party idea :D

linuxawy's picture

one more thing

what's the LAN party? :)

Ahmed D. El-Mekkawy

DesertFox's picture


linuxawy's picture

seems interesting Ahmed

seems interesting

Ahmed D. El-Mekkawy

DesertFox's picture

yes I am working on it

yes I am working on it actually :)

linuxawy's picture

why a distro?

I have 2 concerns about the distro thing:

  • we have volunteers that never installed gnu/linux and interacted with it, they can't install it safely and make some stuff as compiling nvidia kernel module or install ndiswrapper on a laptop. They are not experienced with CLI even for normal tasks. which turns making a distro into something we can't do in the current time.
  • I don't like making a distro to have a distro, we have to know why are we making it. Do we really need some special features that we can't find in another distro? or do we just need to customize a distro like the one we did in the last installfest? or we need a project to learn in it and we don't need the output?

Ahmed D. El-Mekkawy

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